George Webb - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 959 |
| Age: | 13 |
| Whence received: | H M Prison Stafford |
| Description: | |
| Complexion: | Fresh |
| Hair colour: | Brown |
| Eyes colour: | Brown |
| Height: | 4 ft 6 ins |
| Particular marks: | Nil |
| State of health: | Good |
| Able-bodied? | Yes |
| Date of admission: | 9 December 1890 |
| Late residence: | 23 Deanery Row, Wolverhampton |
| Parish he belongs to: | St Mary's, Wolverhampton |
| Customary work and mode of life: | Box maker |
| Whether illegitimate: | No |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Imperfectly, Standard 3 |
| Writes: | Imperfectly, Standard 3 |
| Offence: | Stealing sweets |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | Does not appear (parents said to be of good character, etc) |
| Date of sentence, by whom and court: | 10 November 1890; John Lees and J G Wright; Wolverhampton Court of Summary Jurisdiction |
| Where imprisoned: | H M Prison, Stafford |
| Sentence: | 1 month hard labour in prison, 5 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals: | |
| Number: | 4 |
| Length: | 1) 5 February 1889, discharged with caution; 2) 18 May 1889, fined 7s and costs or 7 days; 3) 29 April 1890, 3 days and 12 strokes; 4) 26 June 1890, 3 days and 12 strokes |
| For what: | - [not stated for any of the 4 offences] |
| Father's name: | Henry Webb |
| Occupation: | Striker |
| Mother's name: | Sarah Webb |
| Occupation: | - |
| Parents dead? | Neither |
| Survivor married again? | - |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Both parents are recorded as of good character. There seem few reasons why this boy should have become a criminal, save his own perversity. No information is given on that point |
| Character of parents | See above |
| Parents' wages: | Father earns 20s per week |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | This question will be settled by the magistrates, when brought before them by the police, at the instigation o H M Inspector of Reformatories |
| Parents address: | 23 Deanery Row, Wolverhampton |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | - |
| Person making this return: | - |
| Notes: | |
| 15 February 1894 The Register of Boys on Licence records that Webb was licensed to go out and work for Mr A Moorcroft, Lower Stafford Street, Wolverhampton | |
| 8 December 1895 Sentence expired whilst on licence, discharged from Saltley | |
| 11 August 1896 The Log Book report records receipt of a letter from Webb, Wolverhampton | |
| 11 October 1898 The Log Book report records receipt of a letter from Webb, Wolverhampton | |
William Griffiths - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 1214 |
| Age: | 14 (born 26 July 1885) |
| Whence received: | Brierley Hill Petty Sessions |
| Description: | |
| Complexion: | Fresh |
| Hair colour: | Light brown |
| Eyes colour: | Blue |
| Height: | 4 ft 6½ ins |
| Particular marks: | Large scar on inside of right forearm; lame left leg, has had hip joint disease |
| State of health: | Fair |
| Able-bodied? | No - has had hip disease |
| Date of admission: | 30 October 1899 |
| Late residence: | Whittington, near Kinver, Staffordshire |
| Parish he belongs to: | Whittington |
| Customary work and mode of life: | Casual employment |
| Whether illegitimate: | No |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Not at all |
| Writes: | Not at all |
| Offence: | Larceny |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | Parental neglect |
| Date of sentence, by whom and court: | 30 October 1899; S G Dudley; Brierley Hill Petty Sessions |
| Where imprisoned: | - |
| Sentence: | Detained at Saltley until 19 years of age |
| Previous committals: | |
| Number: | 2 |
| Length: | 1) (24 December1896) -; 2) 6 February 1899) - |
| For what: | 1) Larceny; 2) larceny |
| Father's name: | William Griffiths |
| Occupation: | - |
| Mother's name: | Susan Griffiths |
| Occupation: | - |
| Parents dead? | Neither |
| Survivor married again? | - |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Indifferent |
| Character of parents | Reported good |
| Parents' wages: | - |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | - |
| Parents address: | Whittington, near Kinver |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | - |
| Person making this return: | John Spendlove, Police Superintendent |
| Notes: | |
| 12 December 1896 A previous offence was reported in the County Advertiser and Herald for Staffordshire and Worcestershire Saturday 12 December 1896 p.7 col.3: THEFT OF A RABBIT. - William Griffiths (11), of Kinver, was charged with stealing a rabbit, value 1s., the property of Joseph Whittingslow, greengrocer, High-street, Kinver, on the 2nd inst. - The evidence showed that between eleven and twelve on the morning of the date named Elizabeth Whittingslow, wife of complainant, hung a dead rabbit outside the shop door, and then went into the yard at the back. During her absence defendant came by and took away the rabbit, which of course was missed by Mrs. Whittingslow on her return. Defendant meanwhile went to Mrs. Spencer, and sold the rabbit to her. Police-sergeant Alldridge was communicated with, and recovered the rabbit. The boy made a statement to him that he had taken the rabbit from the shop. - In reply to the Bench, Police-sergeant Alldridge said it would be impossible for a boy to have a worse character. He was repeatedly pilfering, and had been turned out of school in consequence of his bad conduct. The boy had never been prosecuted before. - The defendant was remanded for a week to the Workhouse. | |
| 11 February 1899 Another previous offence was reported in the County Advertiser and Herald for Staffordshire and Worcestershire Saturday 11 February 1899 p.7 col.6: DISTRICT POLICE COURTS. BRIERLEY-HILL. MONDAY. - Before Mr. G. K. Harrison, and Sir H. Lambert. - THEFT BY A CRIPPLE. - William Griffiths (13), a cripple, of Pen Hole, Kinver, was charged with stealing a silver watch and chain, value £4, the property of Bartholomew Pillinger, blacksmith, on the 24th inst. - Prosecutor stated that on the date named he was at work in a smithy at Kinver Hill Farm, and hung up the watch and chain on a nail in the shop. About half-past two in the afternoon witness had occasion to leave the shop. Prisoner was there at the time he went out, but upon his return he found that the boy and the watch and chain had gone. Witness reported the matter to Police-sergeant Aldridge. - Police-sergeant Aldridge said that about a quarter to three in the afternoon, in consequence of a complainant made to him by the prosecutor, witness went in search of prisoner whom he found in High-street, Kinver, with the watch in his possession. Upon witness asking prisoner how he accounted for having the watch in his possession prisoner said at first he had found it down the road, but afterwards said he had stolen it from the smithy at Kinver Hill Farm. When witness charged him with the theft prisoner replied that he wanted to go back to the school. - Mr. King (magistrates clerk) stated that the boy, who was a cripple in consequence of an injury to his hip, had been in an industrial school, and there were several convictions against him before he was sent there. - Prisoner was bound over in his own recognisances of £10 to come up for judgment if called upon in twelve months. | |
| 21 October 1899 The crime that sent him to Saltley was reported in the County Advertiser and Herald for Staffordshire and Worcestershire Saturday 21 October 1899 p.2 col.1: A YOUTHFUL CULPRIT. - William Griffiths, of Windsor Holloway, Kinver, a lad of fourteen years, was charged with stealing a 1s., the property of Arthur John Parkes, at Kinver, on the 1st inst. Mrs. Parkes, wife of the complainant, said that on the 1st inst., she gave her boy a 1s. in a purse to make a purchase as he returned from school. - Alfred John Parkes (6), said he was in the infants' school. On Monday last, his mother gave him a shilling in a purse. When he was near the White Hart Inn, he saw defendant, who asked him to let him look at the purse. Defendant then took the shilling out of the purse and gave him the purse back again. - Mrs. Bradford said she kept a tobacconist's shop at Kinver. On the day in question defendant came to her shop and bought a pennyworth of cigarettes, and tendered a shilling in payment. - Police-sergeant Hall said he arrested defendant. The lad was drunk. When he recovered, witness charged him with stealing 1s., the property of Arthur John Parkes, on the 1st inst. Defendant replied that he did not see the shilling until his brother George gave it to him, that he had paid some of it back and his mother would pay the rest. - Defendant, who was a bad character, was remanded for a week to the Workhouse, until a place in a reformatory school could be found for him. In the event he was held on remand for two weeks until Saltley agreed to take him. | |
| 15 November 1902 The Register of Boys on Licence records that Griffiths was licensed to go out and work for Messers Webb & Son, Stourbridge | |
| 9 April 1903 Returned to Saltley as his employer was unable to find further employment for him. The Log Book adds: The latter is a lame boy, and his mental powers not being very strong I fear he will always be a trouble to me | |
| 24 June 1903 The Medical Officer reported: Enlarged cervical gland, still suffering on 1 July | |
| 1 October 1903 The Incidental Returns Book reports that Griffiths was licensed to go out and work for Mr W Knowles, Wythall, Worcestershire | |
| 2 November 1903 Both the Register of Boys on Licence and the Reformatory Committee Log Book note that Griffiths was re-admitted to Saltley on this date. | |
| 1 April 1904 The Medical Officer reported: Catarrh, almost well by 11 April | |
| 25 July 1904 Sentence expired, discharged from Saltley | |
| No. in Admissions Register: | 126 |
| Date of admission: | 9 November 1857 |
| Whence received: | House of Correction, Westminster |
| By whom brought: | |
| On what terms: | Committed |
| Friends interested in him: | - |
| Description: | |
| Height: | - |
| Figure: | - |
| Complexion: | Fair |
| Hair colour: | Brown |
| Eyes colour: | Brown |
| Perfect vision? | Yes |
| State of health: | Good |
| Able-bodied? | Yes |
| Sound intellect? | Yes |
| Use of all limbs? | Yes |
| Had cow or small pox | Cow pox |
| Particular marks | None |
| Cutaneous disorder? | No |
| Scrofulous or consumptive? | No |
| Subject to fits? | No |
| Age last birthday: | 13 |
| Illegitimate? | No |
| Birthday: | - |
| Birth place: | - |
| Has resided: | 6 College Street, Highbury Vale, Islington |
| Parish to which he belongs: | Islington |
| Customary work and mode of life: | Errand boy |
| Schools attended: | - |
| By whom and where employed: | - |
| State of education: | |
| Reads | Fairly |
| Writes: | Fairly |
| Cyphers: | - |
| General ability: | - |
| Offence: | Stealing £17 from his master |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | Not known |
| Date of sentence: | 10 August 1857 |
| Where convicted: | Sessions house, Clerkenwell before R Pashley Esq, Assistant Judge |
| Sentence: | 3 months in prison, 3 years at Saltley |
| Where imprisoned: | - |
| Previous committals and convictions: | None |
| Father's name: | - |
| Occupation | - |
| Residence: | - |
| Mother's name: | Hannah Edwards |
| Occupation: | Needlewoman |
| Residence | 6 College Street, Highbury Vale, Islington |
| Father's character: | - |
| Mother's character: | Good |
| Parents dead? | Father is dead |
| Survivor married again? | No |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Good |
| Character of parents: | Health good |
| Parents' wages: | Average about 10s per week |
| Weekly amount parents will pay: | 9d |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | - |
| Relatives to communicate with: | - |
| Person making this return: | Chas. Cheetham, Governor, House of Correction, Westminster |
| Estimate of character on admission: | - |
| Character on discharge: | - |
| When and how left the Reformatory: | 28 Jun 1860 taken to Fareham to join Navy |
Notes:
| 1 February 1858 on Good Conduct List |
| 28 June 1860 took him and J Smith [boy 123] to Fareham, Hampshire, with the view of their being taken into the Navy, Mr Dumergue(?), incumbent of Fareham having promised through Mr Gover to use his best endeavour to get them places in one of the government's training ships. In the meantime they will be provided with employment at Fareham. |
| 5 July 1860 The Minute Book notes: 691. Mr Gover reported that Smith [boy 123] and Edwards are at Fareham, engaged as Carpenters, under the care of the Rector, waiting an opportunity to go to sea. |
| 3 August 1860 received on board the Victory |
| 6 September 1860 The Minute Book contains this: 707. Mr Adderley reported that Mr Ratcliff had received a letter from Smith, who with Edwards have succeeded in making a satisfactory arrangement for going to sea, and it was agreed their expenses at Fareham should be paid. |
| 4 October 1860 The Minute Book reported: 714. Resolved: That Mr Ratcliff be requested to report the total expenses incurred in reference to Smith and Edwards' , including a gratuity of £1 to Mr Coker for his services in superintending them while at Fareham. |
| 1 November 1860 The Minute Book records that: 724. Mr Ratcliff reported that the total expenses of sending out Smith and Edwards amounted to £16 18s 9d |
| 6 April 1861 seen by Mr Gould aboard the Victory. All well. |
| December 1864 Joseph Smith called and said he [Edwards] is doing well in HMS [ship's name not stated] off the American coast. |
John Norton - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 428 |
| Age: | 15 |
| Whence received: | Stafford |
| Description: | |
| Complexion: | Dark |
| Hair colour: | Black |
| Eyes colour: | Brown |
| Visage: | - |
| Particular marks: | - |
| State of health: | Good |
| Able-bodied? | Yes |
| Date of admission and term: | 24 May 1870 - - |
| Late residence: | Burton on Trent |
| Parish he belongs to: | Burton |
| Customary work and mode of life: | Errand boy |
| Whether illegitimate: | - |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Not at all |
| Writes: | Not at all |
| Offence: | Stealing money |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | - |
| Date of sentence, by who and court: | 26 April 1870, Burton Petty Sessions, C W Lyon and W Wood Esqs |
| Where imprisoned: | Stafford |
| Sentence: | 1 month prison (hard labour), 3 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals: | |
| Number: | None |
| Length: | - |
| For what: | - |
| Father's name: | Alfred Norton |
| Occupation: | Labourer |
| Mother's name: | Mary Ann Norton |
| Occupation: | - |
| Parents dead? | - |
| Survivor married again? | - |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Good |
| Character of parents | Honest, sober, and in good health |
| Parents' wages: | 17s per week |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | 1s 3d |
| Parents address: | 190 Station Street, Burton upon Trent |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | Mr Oswell, Burton |
| Person making this return: | - |
| When and how left reformatory: | 24 May 1873 - Discharged on expiration of sentence |
Notes:
| 23 April 1870 There is a report of the crime in the Staffordshire Advertiser Saturday 23 April 1870 p.7 col.4: ROBBERY FROM A TILL. John Norton, 14, of Station-street, an old offender, was charged with stealing, on Monday night, 3s. 4½d. from the till in the shop occupied by Thomas Stoneystreet, greengrocer, Station-street. The prosecutor's wife was absent from the shop about two minutes, and on her return found that the till, which had shortly before contained 2s. 9d. in silver and some coppers, was empty Having seen the prisoner near her shop she followed him and brought him back, and he then "turned up" 3s. 4½d., asking her to say nothing about it. He was remanded for a week. |
| 24 May 1873 Discharged |
| 5 February 1875 Called at the school. Is doing well - employed at Trueman, Hanbury, & Co's brewery, Burton |
| 9 October 1875 Called again - employed as before |
William Sigley - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 704 |
| Age: | 10 years 11 months |
| Whence received: | H M Prison Stafford |
| Description: | |
| Complexion: | Fresh |
| Hair colour: | Brown |
| Eyes colour: | Brown |
| Visage: | - |
| Particular marks: | - |
| State of health: | Good |
| Able-bodied? | Yes |
| Date of admission: | 27 July 1882 |
| Late residence: | Saint Edward Street, Leek |
| Parish he belongs to: | Leek |
| Customary work and mode of life: | Schoolboy |
| Whether illegitimate: | No |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Not at all |
| Writes: | Not at all |
| Offence: | Stealing ducks |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | Keeping bad company |
| Date of sentence, by whom and court: | 5 July 1882; J Brough and H Sleigh; Leek Court of Summary Jurisdiction |
| Where imprisoned: | H M Prison Stafford |
| Sentence: | 21 days in prison, 5 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals: | |
| Number: | None, but he was in custody with one other boy at Macclesfield, about a month ago |
| Length: | - |
| For what: | - |
| Father's name: | Charles Sigley |
| Occupation: | Bricklayer's labourer- |
| Mother's name: | Sarah Sigley |
| Occupation: | - |
| Parents dead? | Neither |
| Survivor married again? | - |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Good as far as the father is concerned, but bad as regards the mother, who is drunken and has sent the boy begging |
| Character of parents | Mother is drunken. The father has been summoned several times for not sending the boy to school. Many previous attempts have been made to get the boy to attend school, but his general conduct has been so bad that no school would receive him. He is almost certainly begging and leading other boys astray |
| Parents' wages: | Father's wages about 15s or 18s per week |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | He ought to be called upon to pay 1s 6d or 2s per week |
| Parents address: | Charles Sigley, Saint Edward Street, Leek |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | Charles Williams, Leek |
| Person making this return: | - |
Notes:
| 20 July 1882 There is a report of the crime in the Ross Gazette Thursday 20 July 1882 p.3 col.3: A CASE of a very painful nature has been heard by the Leek magistrates, in which William Sigley, aged 10 years, a young incorrigible, and Frederick Bloor, aged eight, were charged with stealing two young ducks. The magistrates' clerk said that the boy Sigley was a notorious young vagabond. He had had his father repeatedly fined through his non-attendance at school, and he so corrupted other boys with whom he came in contact, that of late no schoolmaster in Leek would allow him in his establishment Bloor was discharged with a caution, but Sigley was sentenced to fourteen days' imprisonment, and ordered to be sent to a reformatory till 16 years old. | |
| 21 March 1887 Licensed to Mr J A Haden, Stoke on Trent, to 30 June 1887 | |
| 26 July 1887 Sentence expired, discharged from Saltley whilst out on licence | |
