Saltley Reformatory

George Turner - Saltley Reformatory Inmate

No. in Admissions Register:	928
Age:	12
Whence received:	H M Prison Stafford
Description:
Complexion:	Fresh
Hair colour:	Brown
Eyes colour:	Light hazel
Height:	4 ft 5½ ins
Particular marks:	None
State of health:	Good
Able-bodied?	Yes
Date of admission:	4 September 1889
Late residence:	2 Queen Street, Stafford
Parish he belongs to:	St Mary, Stafford
Customary work and mode of life:	The police inspector reports that the boy has been turned away from St Mary's School through misconduct, and received a bad character from St Paul's School. He runs the streets and is under no control during the day. His mother left her husband a few years ago. The boy's father is a labourer on railway in the Telegraph Department
Whether illegitimate:	No! [exclamation mark in Admissions Register]
State of education:
Reads:	Imperfectly!
Writes:	Imperfectly!
Offence:	Stealing a knife and ball
Circumstances which may have led to it:	Lack of mother's control
Date of sentence, by whom and court:	5 August 1889; C Mycock and John J Cross; Stafford Court of Summary Jurisdiction
Where imprisoned:	H M Prison Stafford
Sentence:	1 month in prison, 5 years at Saltley
Previous committals:
Number:	3
Length:
For what:
Father's name:	William Turner
Occupation:	Labourer
Mother's name:	Elizabeth Turner
Occupation:	-
Parents dead?	Neither
Survivor married again?	-
Parents' treatment of child:	-
Character of parents	Father reported as of good character. Mother reported to be a drunken woman
Parents' wages:	18s per week
Amount parents agree to pay:	Not assessed
Parents address:	2 Queen Street, Stafford
Superintendent of police	-
Person making this return:	-

Notes:

Brother to William (boy 1098) - to see his record click here

10 August 1889 There is a report of the crime in the Staffordshire Chronicle Saturday 10 August 1889 p.4 col.6: SHOPLIFTING BY A BOY. - George Turner (12), of 2, Queen Street, was charged on remand with stealing a knife belonging to James Moreton, of the bazaar in Craberry Street, July 31. - The prosecutor said that on the previous Wednesday afternoon a Mr. Cartwright spoke to him and in consequence he followed prisoner through Broad Eye, when he lost sight of the lad. He missed from the shop a pocket knife and a ball, together worth 9d. He had seen the boy near the shop. - Thomas Cartwright, manager of the Gladstone Club, said he saw prisoner take two things from the shop and put them in his pocket, but could not see what they were. The lad hung about until prosecutor got in sight. The lad then put his arm round the door and took a knife from a card, shut it up, put it in his pocket, and ran away. Witness told Mr. Mereton. - P.C. Cook said that prisoner admitted to him having taken the knife and thrown it against the Wesleyan Chapel in Chapel Street. He also said he took a ball and kicked it about the street until he burst it. Prisoner now pleaded guilty. - The Mayor said the way things were exposed outside the shop appeared to him to be a great temptation to boys. The prisoner had been convicted before, and nothing seemed to do him any good. Prisoner would be sentenced to one month's imprisonment and five years in a reformatory.

3 August 1893 The Register of Boys on Licence records that Turner was licensed to work for Mr Owen, Foregate Street, Stafford

18 August 1893 The Reformatory Committee Log Book report records receipt of a letter from Turner, Stafford

12 June 1894 Following a poor report from his employer, the Log Book report records that Turner has been warned that unless his conduct improves he will have to return to Saltley

3 September 1894 Sentence expired whilst on licence, discharged from Saltley

9 October 1894 The Log Book report records receipt of a letter from Turner, Stafford

Frederick John Judd - Saltley Reformatory Inmate

No. in Admissions Register:	1184
Age:	13 (13 August 1885)
Whence received:	Cardiff Prison
Description:
Complexion:	Slightly sallow
Hair colour:	Dark brown
Eyes colour:	Brown
Height:	4 ft 7¼ ins
Particular marks:	None
State of health:	Fair
Able-bodied?	Yes
Date of admission:	1 October 1898
Late residence:	69 Cecil Street, Cardiff
Parish he belongs to:	-
Customary work and mode of life:	Nil. Police report - the boy is a very bad character. An associate of young thieves and constantly committing theft
Whether illegitimate:	No
State of education:
Reads:	Imperfectly
Writes:	Imperfectly
Offence:	Stealing 10d and a coin
Circumstances which may have led to it:	Lack of parental training
Date of sentence, by whom and court:	23 September 1898; R E Beavan and W Trounce; Cardiff Petty Sessions
Where imprisoned:	H M Prison Cardiff
Sentence:	10 days in prison, 4 years at Saltley
Previous committals:
Number:	2
Length:	1) Birched; 2) birched
For what:	1) Stealing from the person; 2) stealing from the person
Father's name:	John Judd
Occupation:	Labourer
Mother's name:	Catherine Judd
Occupation:	Housewife
Parents dead?	Neither
Survivor married again?	-
Parents' treatment of child:	Fair
Character of parents	Father fair, mother good
Parents' wages:	Not stated
Amount parents agree to pay:	-
Parents address:	69 Cecil Street, Cardiff
Superintendent of police (to collect payments):	-
Person making this return:	D Rees, Justices' Clerk, 27 September 1898

Notes:

23 September 1898 The remand hearing for the crime that sent him to Saltley was reported in the Western Mail Friday 23 September 1898 p.7 col.6: ROUND THE POLICE-COURTS. CARDIFF. "FOUND IT ON THE SEAT." Frederick Judd is an undersized boy of twelve, and when the great military drama. "Proof," was in full swing at the Grand Theatre on Wednesday night, he, it is alleged, created a little scene on his own account. Judd was in the pit, and the charge against him at Cardiff Police-court to-day was that he abstracted from the pocket of Annie Finn 6d. in silver, 4d. in copper, and a foreign coin. On being arrested the lad said he "found it on the seat." - The Magistrates (Alderman Ebenezer Beavan, Alderman Trounce, and Dr. James Mullin were unable to complete the case in the absence of the prosecutrix. and Inspector Durston asked for a remand for a week, which was granted. Meanwhile. Judd is to be located in the workhouse; Finn will be asked attend and give evidence at the hearing.

11 November 1901 The Register of Boys on Licence records that Judd was licensed to go out and work for Mr Andrews, Queen Street, Cardiff

1 April 1902 The Register of Boys on Licence records that Judd was re-licensed to go out and work for Mr T Williams, Frederick Street, Cardiff

July 1902 The Register of Boys on Licence records that Judd was out of employment (his employer had reported him as unsatisfactory)

30 September 1902 Sentence expired whilst on licence but unemployed, discharged from Saltley

No. in Admissions Register:	490
Age:	12
Whence received:	Cardigan County Prison
Description:
Complexion:	Fresh
Hair colour:	Brown
Eyes colour:	Blue
Visage:	-
Particular marks:	Blue mark between thumb and forefinger
State of health:	Good
Able-bodied?	Yes
Date of admission and term:	12 July 1873 5 years
Late residence:	7 Moor Lane, Aberystwyth
Parish he belongs to:	-
Customary work and mode of life:	Rope works
Whether illegitimate:	-
State of education:
Reads:	Imperfectly
Writes:	Imperfectly
Offence:	Stealing a box with 6s in it
Circumstances which may have led to it:	Bad company
Date of sentence, by who and court:	1 July 1873, Aberayron Quarter Sessions
Where imprisoned:	Cardigan
Sentence:	14 days prison (hard labour), 5 years at Saltley
Previous committals:
Number:	One
Length:	1 month
For what:	Stealing pocket handkerchief and gloves
Father's name:	Thomas Davies
Occupation:	Sailor
Mother's name:	Eliza Davies
Occupation:	Laundress
Parents dead?	Neither
Survivor married again?	-
Parents' treatment of child:	Good
Character of parents	Doubtful
Parents' wages:	Father £3 10s per month; mother 1s per day
Amount parents agree to pay:	-
Parents address:	7 Moor Lane, Aberystwyth
Superintendent of police (to collect payments):	-
Person making this return:	-

Notes:

29 March 1873 There is a report of one of his previous offences in the Aberystwyth Observer Saturday 29 March 1873 p.4 col.5: AN INCORRIGIBLE. - Thomas Richard Davies. Moor Street. was charged with larceny. - the prisoner, whose age is 11 years, is the son of a sailor, and although so young has already come under the notice of the police. Last Monday P. C. David Thomas (23) was on duty near the market. In Little Darkgate Street, and seeing the prisoner prowling about he watched him. The prisoner went to where Jane Lewis, of Prysgmawr, Pennant, was selling butter, and deliberately picked her pocket of a handkerchief and pair of gloves, of the total value of 1s 6d. Witness then took him into custody. - In answer to the bench, P.S. Evans stated that in 1869 the prisoner was apprehended for stealing 6d., and last November he was again in custody for robbery. He was a very bad boy, and the number of juvenile thieves in the town was increasing. - Sentenced to one month's imprisonment with hard labour.

4 July 1873 There two reports about the boy, the first being a detailed report at the remand hearing of the crime, in the Cambrian News and Merionethshire Standard Saturday 4 July 1873 p.7 col.3: A YOUNG PICKPOCKET.-Thomas Richard Davies, about thirteen years of age, was brought up in custody on Friday, June 27th (before Thomas Jones, Esq., Mayor,) charged with having stolen from the person of Mrs Catherine Williams, widow, Blaenplwyf, a tin box containing six shillings in silver. Prosecutrix said she was on the Marine- terrace on Wednesday evening June 25th, having gone there to hear the band. Several people were near her, and she had in her pocket the small tin box now produced, containing two half-crowns and two sixpences. She saw the prisoner's hand in her pocket, and immediately afterwards missed the box. Accused the prisoner of having robbed her, and he denied the accusation, and told witness she might search him. Witness at once searched him and found the box in his waistcoat pocket. Richard Jones, tailor's apprentice, proved having seen the prisoner's hand in the prosecutrix's pocket.- P.C. Thomas Jones said that when the prisoner was charged at the lock-up he said he had done it and would never do it again.-P.S. Evans proved several previous convictions against the prisoner, and he was committed for trial at the Quarter Sessions.

In the same issue of the same paper is also a short report of the sentencing, p.5 col.5: PLEADED GUILTY. Thomas Richard Davies, 12, to picking the pocket of Catherine Williams, and stealing 6s. at Aberystwyth, on the 25th June last. This was the prisoner's fifth offence, and he was sentenced to suffer fourteen days' imprisonment, to be followed by five years at Saltley Reformatory.

18 October 1873 A few months after his admission to the Reformatory, his father was summoned for non-payment of maintenance, as reported in the Aberystwyth Observer Saturday 18 October 1873 p.4 col.4: A REFORMATORY CONTRIBUTION ORDER. - Thomas Davies, sailor, Moor Street, was summoned for neglecting to contribute towards the support of his son, Thomas Richard Davies, who has been sent to Saltley Reformatory School for five years. - Supt. Lloyd said he appeared on behalf of one of the inspectors of Reformatory Schools. He produced the document of the boy's commitment, and also the certificate from the Reformatory Authorities. He had made enquiries, and found the defendant could contribute 2s per week. - Defendant was ordered to pay 2s a week.

George Moore - Saltley Reformatory Inmate

No. in Admissions Register:	582
Age:	14
Whence received:	Birmingham Borough Prison
Description:
Complexion:	Fresh
Hair colour:	Dark brown
Eyes colour:	Brown
Visage:	-
Particular marks:	-
State of health:	Good
Able-bodied?	Yes
Date of admission and term:	16 August 1877 4 years
Late residence:	Penn Street Industrial School
Parish he belongs to:	-
Customary work and mode of life:	-
Whether illegitimate:	-
State of education:
Reads:	-
Writes:	-
Offence:	Absconding from School
Circumstances which may have led to it:	-
Date of sentence, by who and court:	3 August 1877, Birmingham Police Court, T C S Kynnersley
Where imprisoned:	Birmingham Borough Prison
Sentence:	14 days prison (hard labour), 4 years at Saltley
Previous committals:
Number:	-
Length:	-
For what:	-
Father's name:	Dead
Occupation:	-
Mother's name:	Dead
Occupation:	-
Parents dead?	-
Survivor married again?	-
Parents' treatment of child:	-
Character of parents	-
Parents' wages:	-
Amount parents agree to pay:	-
Parents address:	-
Superintendent of police (to collect payments):	-
Person making this return:	-

Notes:

4 August 1877 There is a short report of the court hearing in Aris's Birmingham Gazette Saturday 4 August 1877 p.7 col.7: ABSCONDING FROM SCHOOL. - George Moor (15) was charged with absconding from Penn Street Industrial School. - Prosecutor informed the Bench that this was the fifth time he had absconded. - He was sentenced to 14 days imprisonment, and after that to be detained in a reformatory school for four years.

William Watkins - Saltley Reformatory Inmate

No. in Admissions Register:	145
Date of admission:	31 May 1858
Whence received:	Hardwick Reformatory
By whom brought:	Mr Boyd
On what terms:	-
Friends interested in him:	-
Description:
Height:	-
Figure:	-
Complexion:	-
Hair colour:	Rather dark
Eyes colour:	Brown
Perfect vision?	Yes
State of health:	Good
Able-bodied?	Yes
Sound intellect?	Yes
Use of all limbs?	Yes
Had cow or small pox?	Yes
Particular marks:	Simply marked on left arm from vaccination
Cutaneous disorder?	Yes
Scrofulous or consumptive?	No
Subject to fits?	No
Age last birthday:	14
Illegitimate?	No
Birthday:	-
Birth place:	-
Has resided:	57 Dale Street, Bristol
Parish to which he belongs:	St Paul's, Bristol
Customary work and mode of life:	Shoemaking, on and off; frequently hanging about and leaving home
Schools attended:	-
By whom and where employed:	-
State of education:
Reads:	Imperfectly
Writes:	Nil
Cyphers:
General ability:
Offence:	Picking pockets
Circumstances which may	His brother (now in the army) taught him to pick pockets
Date of sentence:	6 April 1858
Where convicted:	Bristol Quarter Sessions
Where imprisoned:	Bridewell, Bristol
Sentence:	2 years at Reformatory
Previous committals and convictions:	Stealing lead (pardoned because led onto it); sleeping out (pardoned); stealing a knife value 1s (1 month gaol and flogged); sleeping out (1 month gaol)
Father's name:	James Watkins
Occupation:	Sugar boiler
Residence:	57 Dale Street, Bristol [crossed out]; Belle View Cottage, Newfoundland Gardens, St Paul's, Bristol [inserted]
Mother's name:	-
Occupation:	-
Residence:	-
Father's character:	Gets drunk at least once a week
Mother's character:	Sober and industrious
Parents dead?	Mother
Survivor married again?	Yes, Martha Watkins
Parents' treatment of child:	Kind
Character of parents:	Health good
Parents' wages:	15s per week besides overtime pay
Weekly amount parents will pay	-
Superintendent of police (to collect payments):	-
Relatives to communicate with:	-
Person making this return:	Mr Joseph Boyd, schoolmaster, Hardwick Reformatory, Gloucester
Estimate of character on admission:	-
Character on discharge:	-
When and how left the Reformatory:	9 Apr 1860 - returned to family on expiration of his sentence

Notes:

9 April 1860 Returned to his family Belle View Cottage, Newfoundland Gardens, St Paul's, Bristol

7 January 1861 Heard of at Bristol driving a horse and cart for Mrs Winter (?) Newfoundland shop, St Paul's, Bristol - "is a good boy"