Samuel Lloyd - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 184 |
| Date of admission: | 14 September 1860 |
| Whence received: | Stafford Gaol |
| By whom brought: | - |
| On what terms: | - |
| Friends interested in him: | - |
| Description: | |
| Height: | - |
| Figure: | - |
| Complexion: | - |
| Hair colour: | - |
| Eyes colour: | - |
| Perfect vision? | Yes |
| State of health: | - |
| Able-bodied? | Yes |
| Sound intellect? | - |
| Use of all limbs? | Yes |
| Had cow or small pox? | - |
| Particular marks: | - |
| Cutaneous disorder? | No |
| Scrofulous or consumptive? | Not apparent |
| Subject to fits? | Uncertain |
| Age last birthday: | 9 |
| Illegitimate? | - |
| Birthday: | - |
| Birth place: | - |
| Has resided: | Prince's End, Sedgley |
| Parish to which he belongs: | Bilston |
| Customary work and mode of life: | Carrying meals to relatives at work |
| Schools attended: | - |
| By whom and where employed: | |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Imperfectly |
| Writes: | None |
| Cyphers: | None |
| General ability: | Inferior |
| Offence: | Stealing 4d from a till |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | Idleness and absence of due restraint and teaching |
| Date of sentence: | 31 August 1860 |
| Where convicted: | Bilston |
| Where imprisoned: | Stafford |
| Sentence: | 14 days prison, 4 years detention at Saltley |
| Previous committals and convictions: | - |
| Father's name: | Thomas Lloyd |
| Occupation: | Labourer at ironworks |
| Residence: | Chapel Street, Bilston |
| Mother's name: | - |
| Occupation: | - |
| Residence: | - |
| Father's character: | Drunken |
| Mother's character: | - |
| Parents dead? | Mother |
| Survivor married again? | - |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Neither better nor worse than the ordinary run of people in the same class of life |
| Character of parents | - |
| Parents' wages: | 2s 6d or 2s 9d per day. Out of work often. |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | Justices think 2s a week |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | Hugh McCrea, Superintendent of Police, Bilston |
| Relatives to communicate with: | William Lloyd, Abbot Street, Prince's End, box tin maker |
| Person making this return: | J W Hall, justices' clerk, Bilston |
| Estimate of character on admission: | - |
| Character on discharge: | - |
| When and how left the Reformatory: | 14 Sep 1864 Discharged on expiration of term |
Notes:
| 6 September 1860 The Reformatory Minute book records: 704. An application was received for admission of Samuel Lloyd, who appears to be subject to epileptic fits. |
| Resolved: That the case be referred to Lord Lichfield for enquiry and decision. |
| 4 October 1860 The Minute Book noted that: 713. On reading Minute 704, Mr Humphreys reported that Lord Lichfield had investigated the case and that the boy had been admitted, there being apparently very little danger of the occurrence of epileptic fits. |
| 10 December 1862 Ill of whooping cough |
| 20 May 1864 Licensed to work for his brother at Coseley |
| 23 June 1864 Brought back and reported a very naughty lad |
| 14 September 1864 Discharged on expiration of term |
| 16 January 1866 Heard of working at a forge, character good |
| September 1867 Called at the school - evidently doing very well. |
John Wood - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 7 |
| Date of admission: | 14 September 1852 |
| Weekly payments: | - |
| Age: | 17 |
| Education: | none |
| Previous employment: | Fire iron polisher |
| Crimes, how often and in what prison: | Warwick, Birmingham, 5 |
| Training in reformatory: | - |
| When left reformatory: | October 1853 |
| Parentage and family: | Father living |
| Residence: | Birmingham |
| Trade of father: | Jobber |
| With whom the boy is placed: | Fire iron maker |
| Address: | 12 Brewery Street, New Town Row |
| Trade: | - |
| Notes: | none |
Joseph Holden - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 878 |
| Age: | 12 (on 12 March) |
| Whence received: | H M Prison Birmingham |
| Description: | |
| Complexion: | Fresh |
| Hair colour: | Dark brown |
| Eyes colour: | Grey |
| Height: | - |
| Particular marks: | One top front tooth broken; blue spot back of left hand |
| State of health: | - |
| Able-bodied? | Yes |
| Date of admission: | 6 March 1888 |
| Late residence: | Holyhead Road, Queen Street, Wednesbury |
| Parish he belongs to: | Wednesbury |
| Customary work and mode of life: | School boy |
| Whether illegitimate: | No |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Not at all |
| Writes: | Not at all |
| Offence: | Stealing 3 bottles of sweets and a quantity of chocolate |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | |
| Date of sentence, by whom and court: | 6 February 1888; W Williams and M L Underhill; Wednesbury Police Court |
| Where imprisoned: | H M Prison Birmingham |
| Sentence: | 1 month in prison, 5 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals: | 3 |
| Number: | 3 |
| Length: | 1) 6 months ago, discharged; 2) 4 months ago 6 strokes; 3) 1 month ago discharged |
| For what: | 1) Stealing barrow; 2) stealing tobacco; 3) stealing cabbage |
| Father's name: | Joseph Holden |
| Occupation: | Galvanizer |
| Mother's name: | Frances Holden |
| Occupation: | - |
| Parents dead? | No |
| Survivor married again? | No |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Good |
| Character of parents | Respectable |
| Parents' wages: | Father earns about 30s per week |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | Not yet assessed |
| Parents address: | Holyhead Road, Queen Street, Wednesbury |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | Superintendent Wilcox, Council House, Birmingham |
| Person making this return: | M Elliott, H M Prison Birmingham |
| Notes: | |
| 22 December 1891 The Register of Boys on Licence records that Holden was licensed to go out and work for the Patent Axle Co, Wednesbury | |
| 5 March 1893 Sentence expired, discharged from Saltley | |
John Haven - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 1134 |
| Age: | 12 |
| Whence received: | Staffordshire Quarter Sessions |
| Description: | |
| Complexion: | Fresh |
| Hair colour: | Brown |
| Eyes colour: | Bluish-grey |
| Height: | 4 ft 6½ ins |
| Particular marks: | 2 crosses left forearm; JH right forearm |
| State of health: | Good |
| Able-bodied? | Yes |
| Date of admission | 21 April 1896 |
| Late residence: | 4 house back 21 Wheeler Street, Birmingham |
| Parish he belongs to: | - |
| Customary work and mode of life: | Nil |
| Whether illegitimate: | No |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Well |
| Writes: | Well |
| Offence: | House breaking |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | Bad company (an associate of George Gould, boy 1133) |
| Date of sentence, by whom and court: | 7 April 1896; Lord Hatherton; Staffordshire Quarter Sessions |
| Where imprisoned: | Not |
| Sentence: | 3 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals: | |
| Number: | 1 (Birmingham Petty Sessions) |
| Length: | - |
| For what: | House breaking |
| Father's name: | Abraham Haven |
| Occupation: | - |
| Mother's name: | Ellen Haven |
| Occupation: | - |
| Parents dead? | Neither |
| Survivor married again? | - |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Good |
| Character of parents | Good |
| Parents' wages: | - |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | - |
| Parents address: | 4 house back 21 Wheeler Street, Birmingham |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | - |
| Person making this return: | Matthew F Blakiston, Clerk of the Peace |
| Notes: | |
| 28 February 1896 A previous offence was reported in the Birmingham Mail Friday 28 February 1896 p.2 col.3: BOY BURGLARS IN BIRMINGHAM. At Birmingham Police Court today, before Messrs. W. N. Fisher and F. Wright, George Gould (13), Hospital Street; John Haven (12), 9, Wheeler Street; Wm. Chandler (13), Hospital Street; and John George Busst (15), filer, Lower Tower Street, were charged with breaking into the dwelling-house of Edward Parker, of 17, Miller Street, on the 25th inst., and stealing a silver watch and chain, and four rings, valued at £10; with breaking into the house of Lucy Harper, 57, Elkington Street, on February 24, and stealing a pair of boots, two silver thimbles, and a gold ring, valued at 25s. Prisoners were arrested by Detectives Bristol! end Davis, and admitted having committed the burglaries. Gould said that he had sold one of the rings to a man for £7., but this was not found to be true. - Sergeant Bristol! asked for a remand to enable the stolen articles to be recovered. - The Bench granted a remand for a week. | |
| 1 April 1896 The crime that sent him to Saltley was reported briefly in the Birmingham Mail Wednesday 1 April 1896 p.2 col.4: At Rugeley yesterday. Albert Reeves, George Gould, John Haven, and John Busst hailing from Birmingham, were charged with breaking into a dwelling house at Longden and stealing £3. and a silver watch, the property of Henry Warner, and 2s. 5d. and a silk handkerchief, the property of Charles Clarke, A police-constable chased prisoners on his bicycle. Gould put the three sovereigns in his stocking. Prisoners admitted the offence, Reeves endeavouring to lay the blame upon the others. - They were all committed for trial at the Quarter Sessions. | |
| 20 April 1899 Sentence expired, discharged from Saltley | |
| No. in Admissions Register: | 238 |
| Date of admission: | 14 July 1862 |
| Whence received: | Walsall Gaol |
| By whom brought: | - |
| On what terms: | - |
| Friends interested in him: | - |
| Description: | |
| Height: | - |
| Figure: | - |
| Complexion: | Pale |
| Hair colour: | Brown |
| Eyes colour: | Hazel |
| Perfect vision? | Yes |
| State of health: | Good |
| Able-bodied? | Yes |
| Sound intellect? | Yes |
| Use of all limbs? | Yes |
| Had cow or small pox? | Vaccinated |
| Particular marks: | - |
| Cutaneous disorder? | No |
| Scrofulous or consumptive? | No |
| Subject to fits? | No |
| Age last birthday: | 9 |
| Illegitimate? | No |
| Birthday: | - |
| Birth place: | - |
| Has resided: | Ablewell Street, Walsall |
| Parish he belongs to: | Walsall |
| Customary work and mode of life: | Errand boy |
| Schools attended: | - |
| By whom and where employed: | - |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Imperfect |
| Writes: | Imperfect |
| Cyphers: | - |
| General ability: | - |
| Offence: | Simple larceny (stealing 2s) |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | General neglect at home |
| Date of sentence: | 30 June 1862 |
| Where convicted: | Walsall, before Henry Highway and Stephen Stokes |
| Who prosecuted: | - |
| Where imprisoned: | Walsall Borough Gaol |
| Sentence: | 14 days prison 4 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals and convictions: | Garden robbing (3 days) |
| Father's name: | - |
| Occupation: | - |
| Residence: | - |
| Mother's name: | Mary Carpenter |
| Occupation: | - |
| Residence: | Ablewell Street, Walsall |
| Father's character: | - |
| Mother's character: | Respectable |
| Parents dead? | Father |
| Survivor married again? | No |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Negligent |
| Character of parents | - |
| Parents' wages: | Not known |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | 1s per week |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | J W Cater, Chief Superintendent, Walsall |
| Relatives to communicate with: | - |
| Person making this return: | J W Cater, Walsall |
| Estimate of character on admission: | - |
| Character on discharge: | - |
| When and how left the Reformatory: | - |
Notes:
| 5 July 1862 There is a report of the crime in the Walsall Free Press and General Advertiser Saturday 5 July 1862 p.4 col.1: STEALING FROM A TILL.-Thomas Carpenter, aged about ten years, was charged with having, on Friday last, stolen from the shop of Mrs. Harding, Lower Rushall Street. two shillings. It appeared the lad, who had been previously convicted, had on the afternoon of the day in question, been sent to the shop of Mrs Harding, and finding no one in the shop, he had taken two shillings from the till, and on being charged with the offence he admitted it, and returned money to Mrs. Harding. In order to have the lad sent to a reformatory the case was remanded for a week. |
| 16 January 1866 Licensed |
| December 1867 Walsall. Doubtful [character] |
| November 1868 Liverpool. Doubtful |
| October 1869 Liverpool. Good |