Joseph Curry - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 789 |
| Age: | 14 |
| Whence received: | H M Prison Warwick |
| Description: | |
| Complexion: | Fresh |
| Hair colour: | Brown |
| Eyes colour: | Grey |
| Visage: | Height 4 ft 8 in |
| Particular marks: | Small Dot left forearm; small scar back of neck; wart on left ear |
| State of health: | - |
| Able-bodied? | Slight |
| Date of admission: | 25 November 1885 |
| Late residence: | Penn Street Industrial School, Birmingham |
| Parish he belongs to: | - |
| Customary work and mode of life: | - |
| Whether illegitimate: | No |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Imperfectly |
| Writes: | Imperfectly |
| Offence: | Arson - setting fire to Penn Street Industrial School |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | - |
| Date of sentence, by whom and court: | 12 November 1885; George Dinmore; Warwick Assizes |
| Where imprisoned: | H M Prison Warwick |
| Sentence: | 14 days hard labour in prison, 3 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals: | |
| Number: | - |
| Length: | - |
| For what: | Committed to Penn Street Industrial School by the School Board. Was before the magistrates in March 1883 but discharged |
| Father's name: | Henry Curry |
| Occupation: | Painter |
| Mother's name: | Sarah Curry |
| Occupation: | - |
| Parents dead? | - |
| Survivor married again? | - |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Not known |
| Character of parents | Supposed to be of acceptable character |
| Parents' wages: | Not known |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | - |
| Parents address: | 7 Rawlin Street, Ladywood, Birmingham |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | - |
| Person making this return: | - |
| Notes: | |
| 21 November 1885 The crime that sent him to Saltley was reported in the Leamington Spa Courier Saturday 21 November 1885 p.7 col.5: ARSON AT PENN STREET INDUSTRIAL SCHOOL. - Harold Pownall (14), tailor, and Joseph Curry, labourer, were charged with feloniously setting fire to a room in the Penn-street Industrial Schools, Birmingham, on the 27th. August. Mr Soden appeared for the prosecution; Mr. Nathan defended. - The two prisoners were inmates of the institution named, and on the evening of August 27th, shortly after the whole of the boys had retired to their dormitories, one of the number gave information to the superintendent that the building was on fire. Upon his going upstairs he discovered that it had occurred in the attic above dormitory No. 1, but he was unable to get inside, as the door was locked, and water was thrown underneath it. The Fire Brigade was sent for, the door was broken open, and after considerable difficulty the flames were extinguished. An examination of the room was afterwards made, and showed that two distinct fires had been kindled. Enquiries were subsequently set on foot, and these led to the prisoners being accused. They then admitted their guilt; Curry stating that he struck the match and that Pownall lit the fibre. - The Superintendent of the school, in answer to Mr. Nathan, said had reason to believe that the prisoners were made the catspaws of some of the other boys, but he had been unable to obtain sufficient evidence to bring a charge against them. - His Lordship sentenced each of the prisoners to a fortnight's imprisonment, and ordered them to be sent to a reformatory for three years. | |
| 4 February 1888 The Register of Boys on Licence reports Curry as being licensed to go out and work for Messers Lloyd, Birmingham. [The Reformatory Committee Log Book records Curry as working for J Pile, Edgbaston, Birmingham. [These are not necessarily contradictory, if Pile is, say, the manager, and Lloyd the company] | |
| 1 April 1888 The Register now records Curry as working for Barnard Clarke & Co, Moor Street, Birmingham | |
| November 1888 Sentence expired, discharged from Saltley whilst out on licence | |
| 11 June 1889 The Reformatory Committee Log Book report records receipt of a letter from Curry, Birmingham | |
| 14 April 1890 The Log Book report records receipt of a letter from Curry, Birmingham | |
| 10 February 1891 The Log Book report records receipt of a letter from Curry, Birmingham | |
George Pearce - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 1049 |
| Age: | 13 (born 1 June 1880) |
| Whence received: | Stafford Police |
| Description: | |
| Complexion: | Sallow |
| Hair colour: | Dark brown |
| Eyes colour: | Grey |
| Height: | 4 ft 6 ins |
| Particular marks: | None |
| State of health: | Good |
| Able-bodied? | Yes |
| Date of admission: | 25 January 1894 |
| Late residence: | 19 New Street, Stafford |
| Parish he belongs to: | Stafford, St Mary's |
| Customary work and mode of life: | - |
| Whether illegitimate: | - |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Imperfectly |
| Writes: | Imperfectly |
| Offence: | Stealing a watch and chain |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | Entirely beyond the control of his parents |
| Date of sentence, by whom and court: | 18 January 1894; G Crosmall and C A Dudley; Stafford Petty Sessions |
| Where imprisoned: | Stafford Workhouse (detained at workhouse until a school could be found) |
| Sentence: | 5 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals: | |
| Number: | 3 |
| Length: | 1) (5 October 1891) pay costs; 2) (23 November 1891) pay costs; 3) (11 May 1892) 5 strokes |
| For what: | 1) Stealing potatoes; 2) stealing sausages; 3) stealing a watch and chain |
| Father's name: | George Pearce |
| Occupation: | Boat fitter |
| Mother's name: | Elizabeth Pearce |
| Occupation: | Housewife |
| Parents dead? | - |
| Survivor married again? | - |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Good |
| Character of parents | - |
| Parents' wages: | £1 per week when in work. No employment for 3 months and 6 children to maintain |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | 1s per week |
| Parents address: | 19 New Street, Stafford |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | - |
| Person making this return: | George Crosmall |
| Notes: | |
| 28 November 1891 A previous offence was reported in the Staffordshire Chronicle Saturday 28 November 1891 p.7 col.3: DARING THEFTS BY LADS. - John Bromley (16), 12, Sash Street, and George Pearce (11), New Street, lads, were charged together with stealing a tin of salmon from the Star Tea Stores, on Saturday night. - Frederick Blythe, manager of the Star Stores, deposed that on Saturday night he was told that someone had taken a tin of salmon. He examined the stock and found one tin missing. - John McNanine, shoe fitter, 1, New Street, said that about 5.30 p.m. he saw the lad Bromley receive a tin of fish from a smaller boy and put it under his coat. There were four lads together at the time, close to the post-office. - P.c. Peake said that later on Saturday night he arrested the lads Bromley and Pearce at their father's house. Pearce said that Bromley sent a little lad named Faulkner, aged seven, to fetch a tin of fish from the Star Tea shop, and when he brought it they all three went into the Bank Passage and broke it open on the palings and ate the fish. He also said that he (Pearce) threw the can into Mr. Mitchell's yard in Craberry Street. Bromley said Faulkner stole it and they all three ate it; and Faulkner said Bromley sent him for the tin. - One of the fathers said the fish was so placed as to be a great temptation to little children. It was right in the street. - The Mayor said the Bench thought things should not be placed unprotected outside doors. The magistrates would take a lenient view of the matter, and the defendants would be discharged, but the magistrates hoped the parents would teach them better. - Defendants were then discharged, on payment of the costs by their parents. | |
| 14 May 1892 Another previous offence was reported in the Staffordshire Chronicle Saturday 14 May 1892 p.6 col.5: THEFT OF EGGS. - Patrick Shields and Geo. Pearce, two boys of no fixed abode, were charged with stealing eggs, the property Mr. R. Arthers, farmer, of Rickerscote, on May 5. - P.c. Shaffery said he arrested the two prisoners that morning and charged them. Prisoner Shield told witness on the evening of May 4, he in company with Pearce end some other lads went to complainant's farm and slept there. A boy named Frederick Follows woke at 3 a.m. the following morning and looked in the fowl pen for some eggs. He found eight and distributed them among the prisoners and the other boys. They all went into Rickerscote village, and a man named Jones saw them. They ran off and threw the eggs away. Complainant was called and stated that early on the morning of May 5 he missed seven eggs. He saw the prisoners with other boys pass his house and go in the direction of Stafford. The prisoner Shield had been in his employ for about nine weeks. Complainant had fetched him out of a wagon the night before. - The magistrates, after hearing the evidence, adjourned the case until today. | |
| 20 January 1893 The remand hearing for the crime was reported in the Staffordshire Chronicle Saturday 20 January 1893 p.7 col.6: ALLEGED THEFT. - George Pearce (13), living at 19, New Street, James Follows (15), Grey Friars Place; and Paul Godwin (17), Friars Street, were charged with stealing a silver lever watch and chain, the property of Henry John Branfield, on Monday. - The prosecutor who works at a Blake machine in a shop in Shepherd's Bush Street, indentified the watch produced as his property. He left it hanging in his shop on Monday at about twenty minutes past twelve and upon going to look at it later he missed it. - P.c. Peake arrested the prisoners Pearce and Follows on the Stone Road at Whitgreave on Monday evening. In answer to the charge, Pearce said he stood by Kent's factory, and when Mr. Branfield had gone home he stole the watch. Godwin stood in Fancy Walk while he fetched it, and afterwards said he would go to Stone with him for the purpose of pawning the watch. Follows said he met Pearce and Godwin on the Stone Road, and he went with them to Stone to pawn the watch. Godwin told witness that Pearce fetched him out of Messrs. Peach's shop in the afternoon and asked him to go to Stone with him to pledge the watch. The watch was offered at a pawnbroker's shop in Stone by Godwin, who was detained. - He had the chain in his possession when handed over to the police. - On the application of Police Inspector Stretton, the case was adjourned until Thursday, bail being allowed. | |
| In the same column of the same newspaper, the next hearing is also reported: THE THEFT OF A WATCH. - The three lads, Pearce, Follows, and Godwin, charged with stealing a watch and chain, the property of Henry John Branfield, who were remanded on Tuesday, were again brought before the Bench. - Mr. Smith Shaw, pawnbroker of Stone, proved that the defendant Godwin went to his shop and offered the watch produced to pledge. Witness asked him where he obtained it, and he said he had brought it at an auction sale in the Market Place. Witness asked several other questions, and Godwin's answers not being satisfactory, he sent for the police. - The defendants consented to be summarily dealt with. Pearce pleaded guilty, and the other defendants not guilty. - Follows was discharged with a caution. - Godwin was charged with receiving the watch, knowing it to have been stolen, and was fined £1 and costs, or in default one month's imprisonment. - Pearce, who had been three times previously convicted of theft, the magistrates decided to send to a reformatory for five years. - Mr. Shaw had previously assisted the police in cases of theft, and the magistrates complimented him upon his action. | |
| 5 February 1894 There is a remarkable letter attached to the the Admissions Register: 5 February 1894, Dear Sir, Re: George Pearce, this boy was committed 6 years Reformatory by a mistake, as appears by enclosed Order of Justices of the borough of Stafford, dated today, made pursuant to the Reformatory Schools Act 1866 section 16. Will you please take the necessary steps for removal of the boy to St Edwards Reformatory School, Upton Park, Essex, and inform me when this has been done, Yours failthfully, Charles Henry Twynam | |
| Also attached is a formal declaration from the Borough of Stafford: To the Managers of the Saltley Reformatory School, Small Heath, Birmingham, and to the Managers of the Saint Edwards Reformatory School Boleyn Castle, Upton Park, near Plaistow, Essex. Whereas George Pearce, late of 19 New Street, in the borough of Stafford, aged 13 years and 10 months (whose religious persuasion appeared to be Church of England), was on the 25th January 1894, by an order made pursuant to the Reformatory Schools Act 1866 sent to the certified Reformatory School at Saltley, and he is now detained therein. And whereas George Pearce the elder, the parent of the said George Pearce, has applied to us and requested us to remove the said George Pearce to a certified Reformatory School which is conducted in accordance with his religious persuasion, namely to the St Edwards Reformatory School, Boleyn Castle, Upton Park, in the county of Essex, the managers of which said last mentioned School being willing to receive the said George Pearce therein (and religious persuasion being Roman Catholic), of which due proof has been given to us. Now therefore, we the said Justices, pursuant to section 16 of the said Act, having complied with the said request do hereby order that the said George Pearce be removed forthwith from the Saltley Reformatory School to the said last mentioned Reformatory School at Upton Park, Essex, aforesaid. Given under our hands and seals this fifth day of February 1894 at the Guild Hall, Borough of Stafford. George Wormal and Frederick Greatre | |
| A later note in the Admissions Register adds that Pearce was sent to St Edwards on 9 February 1894 | |
| No. in Admissions Register: | 231 |
| Date of admission: | 7 February 1862 |
| Whence received: | Stafford |
| By whom brought: | - |
| On what terms: | - |
| Friends interested in him: | - |
| Description: | |
| Height: | - |
| Figure: | - |
| Complexion: | Sallow |
| Hair colour: | Brown |
| Eyes colour: | Hazel |
| Perfect vision? | Yes |
| State of health: | - |
| Able-bodied? | Yes |
| Sound intellect? | Yes |
| Use of all limbs? | Yes |
| Had cow or small pox? | Vaccinated |
| Particular marks: | - |
| Cutaneous disorder? | No |
| Scrofulous or consumptive? | Not apparent |
| Subject to fits? | No |
| Age last birthday: | 11 |
| Illegitimate? | No |
| Birthday: | - |
| Birth place: | - |
| Has resided: | Wallbrook, Sedgley, Staffordshire |
| Parish he belongs to: | Sedgley |
| Customary work and mode of life: | Collier |
| Schools attended: | None |
| By whom and where employed: | - |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Not at all |
| Writes: | Not at all |
| Cyphers: | - |
| General ability: | - |
| Offence: | Stealing a loaf |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | Neglect of parents and destitution |
| Date of sentence: | 8 January 1862 |
| Where convicted: | Bilston, before J M Bagnall and A Sparrow |
| Who prosecuted: | - |
| Where imprisoned: | Stafford |
| Sentence: | 1 month prison, 4 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals and convictions: | Several |
| Father's name: | - |
| Occupation: | - |
| Residence: | - |
| Mother's name: | Ann Bayley |
| Occupation: | Lives with one Richard Lowe |
| Residence: | The Bear, Wallbrook, Sedgley, Staffordshire |
| Father's character: | - |
| Mother's character: | - |
| Parents dead? | Father dead |
| Survivor married again? | No |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Bad |
| Character of parents | Bad as to morality and honesty |
| Parents' wages: | None |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | No order made at present |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | Hugh McCrea, Bilston |
| Relatives to communicate with: | - |
| Person making this return: | J W Hall, Bilston |
| Estimate of character on admission: | - |
| Character on discharge: | - |
| When and how left the Reformatory: | Discharged on 6 Feb 1866 |
Notes:
| 7 August 1861 There is a report of his offence in the Wolverhampton Chronicle and Staffordshire Advertiser Wednesday 7 August 1861 p.5 col.2: A YOUNG INCORRIGIBLE. A notorious little thief, named James Bailey [surname spelled thus], was brought up at the Police Court yesterday on a charge of having robbed the till of Mr. William Skeldon, Princes End. The offence was committed on the day previous, when the prisoner was caught in the act, Strange to say the lad had but just returned from prison, whither he had been sent on a charge by the same prosecutor for a simiiar offence. He was committed for a month's imprisonment and at the termination of that period to be confined in a Reformatory for five years. |
| 6 February 1866 Discharged |
| 5 January 1867 In prison |
James Hill - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 89 |
| Date of admission: | 1 August 1855 |
| Weekly payments: | - |
| Age: | 12 |
| Education: | None |
| Previous employment: | On the road |
| Crimes, how often and in what prison: | 2 |
| Training in reformatory: | 22 May 1857 |
| When and how left reformatory: | 3 Jun 1857 - Emigrated to Australia but is said to have drowned when his ship, the Dunbar, sank on the approach to Sydney Harbour |
| Parentage and family: | Both living |
| Residence: | - |
| Trade of father: | - |
| With whom the boy is placed: | Captain Tyndal |
| Address: | Sydney, Australia |
| Trade: | - |
Notes:
| 7 July 1855 A report of the crime was given in the Staffordshire Advertiser Saturday 7 July 1855 p.7 col.1: JAMES HILL, 12 years of age, was indicted for stealing 24lbs of brass, the property of Messers Ashdown and Company, at Wednesfield; and MICHAEL MACINALTY, aged 58, was indicted for receiving the brass knowing it to have been stolen. Hill pleaded guilty, and sentence was deferred. Macinalty, a labourer, was convicted of receiving the stolen brass, and sentenced to twelve months imprisonment. Hill was subsequently sentenced to one month's imprisonment in the house of correction, and three years confinement in the Saltley Reformatory School. |
| 20 April 1857 The Reformatory Minute Book reports: 454. Mr Humphreys stated that Hill, one of the boys, having disobeyed orders, he instructed the Assistant Schoolmaster to keep him in the schoolroom till the work was done, and to give him bread for dinner; that Mr Brookes wanted the boy to go on an errand and was angry because he could not have him; that Mr Brookes afterwards gave the boy meat to his dinner. Mr Humphreys stated that the boys were too much in the habit of going on errands and that he had sent a message to Mr Brookes requesting to speak to him, intending to discuss the whole subject. [The Minute goes on to the effect that two of the teachers resigned] |
| 3 June 1857 The Minute Book records: As to Minute 442, the Visitors have sanctioned the sending out of the boys William Beech [boy 62] and James Hill who have gone to Australia. |
| [No date] A note in the Admissions Register says he was drowned in the Dunbar. [The Dunbar sank approaching Sydney Harbour on 20 August 1857. 121 people died. James Hill is not named in the list of passengers killed, but there is a John Holl, a steerage passenger, plus three unnamed servants]. |
John Salt [645] - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 645 |
| Age: | 13 |
| Whence received: | H M Prison Stafford |
| Description: | |
| Complexion: | Fresh |
| Hair colour: | Light brown |
| Eyes colour: | Blue |
| Visage: | Long |
| Particular marks: | - |
| State of health: | Good |
| Able-bodied? | Yes |
| Date of admission: | 3 July 1880 |
| Late residence: | Denstone, Staffordshire |
| Parish he belongs to: | Uttoxeter |
| Customary work and mode of life: | Farm work |
| Whether illegitimate: | No |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Imperfectly |
| Writes: | Imperfectly |
| Offence: | Stealing a rabbit |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | Neglect of parents |
| Date of sentence, by whom and court: | 4 June 1880; J C Phillips and A S Bolton; Cheadle Court of Summary Jurisdiction |
| Where imprisoned: | H M Prison Stafford |
| Sentence: | 1 month in prison, 4 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals: | |
| Number: | None |
| Length: | - |
| For what: | - |
| Father's name: | Joseph Armstead (step-father) |
| Occupation: | Tailor |
| Mother's name: | Hannah Armstead |
| Occupation: | - |
| Parents dead? | Father |
| Survivor married again? | Yes |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Very bad |
| Character of parents | Very little known here |
| Parents' wages: | About 15s per week |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | I cannot say - doubtful if able |
| Parents address: | Joseph Armstead at Mr Robert Robacks, Upper Hoyland, near Barnsley. A later addition says has a relative, William Smith, Goss Street, Cheadle (26 November 1882) |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | - |
| Person making this return: | - |
Notes:
| 8 July 1881 Birched and confined in cell 2 days on bread and water for attempting to abscond (ss Punishment Book) |
| 6 June 1883 Emigrates with Mr Middleton |
