David Platt - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 792 |
| Age: | 15 |
| Whence received: | H M Prison Stafford |
| Description: | |
| Complexion: | Fresh |
| Hair colour: | Light |
| Eyes colour: | Grey |
| Visage: | - |
| Particular marks: | Man's head on left breast [tattoo?] |
| State of health: | Good |
| Able-bodied? | Slender |
| Date of admission: | 19 December 1885 |
| Late residence: | By Court, Gresley Street, Wolverhampton |
| Parish he belongs to: | Wolverhampton |
| Customary work and mode of life: | Turner |
| Whether illegitimate: | No |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Imperfectly |
| Writes: | Imperfectly |
| Offence: | Stealing a pair of boots |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | Bad company |
| Date of sentence, by whom and court: | 18 November 1885; N C A Neville; Wolverhampton Court of Summary Jurisdiction |
| Where imprisoned: | H M Prison Stafford |
| Sentence: | 1 month in prison, 2 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals: | |
| Number: | 1 |
| Length: | 21 days in prison, 5 years at Saltley |
| For what: | Stealing a satchel |
| Father's name: | Samuel Platt |
| Occupation: | - |
| Mother's name: | Mary Ann Platt |
| Occupation: | Charwoman |
| Parents dead? | Father |
| Survivor married again? | No |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Fairly good |
| Character of parents | Very bad |
| Parents' wages: | Obtains a living by selling watercresses |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | Unable to contribute |
| Parents address: | By court, Gresley Street, Wolverhampton |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | R D D Hay, Chief Constable, Wolverhampton |
| Person making this return: | R D D Hay |
| Notes: | |
| [This boy had a previous spell in Saltley (boy 640). To see record click here ] | |
| 18 November 1885 The crime that sent him back to Saltley for a second stint was reported in the Wolverhampton Express and Star Wednesday 18 November 1885 p.3 col.3: WOLVERHAMPTON. YOUNG THIEVES. At this Court this morning, David Platt (15), Graiseley-passage, and William Toothill (17), Noake's Buildings, were charged with stealing a pair of boots, the property of William Sherwood, Darlington-street, on the 12th inst. - Platt, an old offender, was sentenced to one month's imprisonment and two years in a reformatory, and Toothill, who has also been previously convicted, was committed to prison for 14 days with hard labour. | |
| 29 December 1887 A crime committed after he left Saltley is reported in the Birmingham Daily Post Thursday 29 December 1887 p.3 col.6: A YOUNG CRIMINAL. - At the Police Court yesterday, David Platt (17), of Brock Street, Salop Street, was charged with stealing an apron, valued at 10d, the property of Fanny Hibbert, widow, of New Hampton Road. The apron, which was missing from a clothes line, was found in the possession of the prisoner. - The Stipendiary (Mr. Neville) stated that although the prisoner was only seventeen years. of ago he had already been charged with seven offences, and had been sentenced to five years' detention in a reformatory. He had commenced the life of an habitual criminal, which would end in penal servitude. - Prisoner was sentenced to three months' hard Iabour. | |
| 8 June 1887 Formally discharged from Saltley, on account of emigrating, along with Heath [boy 706] | |
Albert Tye - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 1047 |
| Age: | 12 (born 17 March 1881) |
| Whence received: | Aston |
| Description: | |
| Complexion: | Fresh |
| Hair colour: | Dark |
| Eyes colour: | Brown |
| Height: | 4 ft 4¾ ins |
| Particular marks: | Scar on left forearm, cut on left cheek |
| State of health: | Good |
| Able-bodied? | Yes (rather slight) |
| Date of admission: | 18 December 1893 |
| Late residence: | Brearley Street, Birmingham |
| Parish he belongs to: | - |
| Customary work and mode of life: | Nil |
| Whether illegitimate: | - |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Imperfectly |
| Writes: | Imperfectly |
| Offence: | Stealing a tin of lobster |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | Police report - this boy is a companion of young thieves and will not go to school |
| Date of sentence, by whom and court: | 15 December 1893; J J Collins and Alfred Hill; Aston Petty Sessions |
| Where imprisoned: | - |
| Sentence: | 5 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals: | |
| Number: | 1 (4 September 1893) |
| Length: | 1 day and 6 strokes |
| For what: | Stealing cooked meat |
| Father's name: | Albert Tye |
| Occupation: | - |
| Mother's name: | Mary Ann Tye |
| Occupation: | - |
| Parents dead? | - |
| Survivor married again? | - |
| Parents' treatment of child: | - |
| Character of parents | - |
| Parents' wages: | 18s per week |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | - |
| Parents address: | Brearley Street, Birmingham |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | - |
| Person making this return: | Superintendent H A Walker |
| Notes: | |
| 16 December 1893 There was a report of the crime in the Birmingham Daily Post Saturday 16 December 1893 p.5 col.7: THEFT BY A SCHOOLBOY. - Albert Tye (12), schoolboy, Brearley Street, Birmingham, was charged with stealing a lobster from the shop of Alexander Jenkins, grocer, 94, Aston Road. - Shortly after nine o'clock on the evening of the 13tth prosecutor's shop-window was broken, and Tye was seen to attempt to take the lobster. He ran away. but was captured and handed over to Police-constable Hodson. - He was sent to a reformatory for five years. | |
| 17 May 1897 The Register of Boys on Licence records that Tye was licensed to go out and work for Mr Bennett, 14 Lancaster Street, Birmingham | |
| 17 December 1898 Sentence expired whilst on licence, discharged from Saltley | |
| 13 June 1899 The Reformatory Committee Log Book report records receipt of a letter from Tye, Malta | |
| 8 August 1899 The Log Book report records receipt of a letter from Tye, Malta | |
| 12 February 1901 The Log Book report records receipt of a letter from Tye, Malta. There was also a letter from the Bandmaster, 3rd Royal Warwickshire Regiment concerning Tye, Robinson [boy 1056] and Johnson [boy 911] | |
| 15 July 1902 The Log Book report records receipt of a letter from Tye, Malta | |
| 11 October 1904 The Reformatory Committee Log Book report records receipt of a letter from Tye, Gibraltar | |
| No. in Admissions Register: | 453 |
| Age: | 14 |
| Whence received: | Birmingham Gaol |
| Description: | |
| Complexion: | Fresh |
| Hair colour: | Dark brown |
| Eyes colour: | Grey |
| Visage: | - |
| Particular marks: | Mole on left side of stomach |
| State of health: | Good |
| Able-bodied? | Yes |
| Date of admission and term: | 13 September 1871 5 years |
| Late residence: | 13 court 4 house Sheep Street, Birmingham |
| Parish he belongs to: | Birmingham |
| Customary work and mode of life: | Button maker |
| Whether illegitimate: | No |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Not at all |
| Writes: | Not at all |
| Offence: | Stealing 3 files |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | Not known |
| Date of sentence, by who and court: | 31 August 1871, Birmingham Police Court, T C S Kynnersley |
| Where imprisoned: | Birmingham, Borough Gaol |
| Sentence: | 14 days prison (hard labour), 5 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals: | |
| Number: | None |
| Length: | - |
| For what: | - |
| Father’s name: | Dead |
| Occupation: | - |
| Mother's name: | Mary Baxter |
| Occupation: | Button carder |
| Parents dead? | - |
| Survivor married again? | Not |
| Parents’ treatment of child: | Kind |
| Character of parents | Good |
| Parents’ wages: | About 7s per week |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | No sum mentioned |
| Parents address: | 13 court 4 house Sheep Street, Birmingham |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | |
| Person making this return: | D Meaden |
Notes:
| 1 September 1871 There is a report of the crime, but with an erroneous first name given, in the Birmingham Daily Gazette Friday 1 September 1871 p.6 col.5: STEALING FILES.-Richard Baxter (14) [first name given as thus], glass button maker, 13 Court, Sheep Street, was charged with stealing three files from a workshop of Hammond, Turner, and Son, Snow Hill, belonging to one of the workmen.- The prisoner had been in Mr. Turner's service for about six years, and during the last three months prisoner had been suspected of committing petty thefts. On Wednesday morning a number of files were found concealed in the corner of a work room. At one o'clock the prisoner was seen pass through the shop, and immediately after the files were missed. Prisoner was followed, and apprehended. On being searched three file handles and 1½d. were found on the prisoner. He admitted, when charged, that he took the files and sold them without the bandies for 1½d -He was sent to gaol for 14 days, and afterwards to Saltley Reformatory for five years. |
| 20 January 1875 Licensed to work for H Matthews, 15 Whitehead Street |
| 16 October 1875 Working for W Wood, brassfounder, Sheep Street, Aston |
| 6 December 1875 Working for W Wood, brassfounder, Sheep Street, Aston |
Edward Hill - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 99 |
| Date of admission: | 3 October 1856 |
| Weekly payments: | - |
| Age: | 15 |
| Education: | - |
| Previous employment: | - |
| Crimes, how often and in what prison: | - |
| Training in reformatory: | 30 March 1857 |
| When and how left reformatory: | 3 Jun 1857 - Moved to Akbar Reformatory, Liverpool |
| Parentage and family: | - |
| Residence: | - |
| Trade of father: | - |
| With whom the boy is placed: | Sent to |
| Address: | - |
| Trade: | - |
Notes:
| 3 June 1857 In a list of 'disposals', the Reformatory Minute Book reports that Hill has been removed to the Akbar Reformatory [a training ship at Liverpool]. |
Joseph Salt - Saltley Reformatory Inmate
| No. in Admissions Register: | 442 |
| Age: | 11 |
| Whence received: | Stafford Gaol |
| Description: | |
| Complexion: | Fresh |
| Hair colour: | Brown |
| Eyes colour: | Blue |
| Visage: | - |
| Particular marks: | Cut on left cheek |
| State of health: | Good |
| Able-bodied? | Yes |
| Date of admission and term: | 6 April 1871 5 years |
| Late residence: | Burton on Trent |
| Parish he belongs to: | Burton |
| Customary work and mode of life: | At brewery |
| Whether illegitimate: | No |
| State of education: | |
| Reads: | Not at all |
| Writes: | Not at all |
| Offence: | Stealing a box |
| Circumstances which may have led to it: | - |
| Date of sentence, by who and court: | 7 March 1871, Burton Petty Sessions, W Worthington and R S Tomlinson |
| Where imprisoned: | Stafford |
| Sentence: | 1 month prison (hard labour), 5 years at Saltley |
| Previous committals: | |
| Number: | None |
| Length: | - |
| For what: | - |
| Father's name: | - |
| Occupation: | - |
| Mother's name: | Fanny Salt (widow) |
| Occupation: | - |
| Parents dead? | Father |
| Survivor married again? | No |
| Parents' treatment of child: | Good |
| Character of parents | Good – circumstances poor |
| Parents' wages: | Uncertain |
| Amount parents agree to pay: | Not anything |
| Parents address: | Victoria Crescent, Burton |
| Superintendent of police (to collect payments): | - |
| Person making this return: | - |
Notes:
| 5 January 1871 A previous offence was reported in the Burton Chronicle Thursday 5 January 1871 p.4 col.4: STEALING SKATES.-Joseph Salt, 11 years of age, son of a widow residing at Little Burton, was charged with having, on the 28th December, unlawfully stolen a pair of skates, value 7s., the property of Mr. Frederick Gane, ironmonger, High Street. The prisoner was seen by a servant of a neighbouring tradesman to take the skates from the prosecutor's shop, and they were afterwards found in his possession while he was sporting on the ice. It was evident from the explanation of the prisoner's mother that his education had been neglected, and the Chairman severely censured her for her indifference to that important element in her son's welfare. The prisoner was discharged on the understanding that he would in future be regularly sent to school. |
| 15 March 1871 There is a report of the crime in the Derby Mercury Wednesday 15 March 1871 p.3 col.2: Joseph Salt, 11, son of a widow residing at Little Burton, who had been before the Court some time ago for felony, was today charged with stealing, on the 28th. ult., a toy box from the shop of Mr William Collier, Derby Street. - The Bench sentenced the prisoner to one month's imprisonment and five years confinement in a reformatory. |
| 1 January 1875 Licensed to work at Burton. 14 William Street, Burton |
| 10 October 1875 Heard of doing well, bricklayer's labourer |